The Scouting Pages - Scouting & The Railways

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SCOUTING & THE RAILWAYS

Scouting in the past as had a connection with railways in the way that there have been three steam locomotives that were given names connected with Scouting, one was the LMS Royal Scot Class Locomotive that was given the name The Boy Scout, while the other two were a Britannia Class Locomotive named after Lord Rowallan, who was a Cheif Scout of the British Commonwealth and Empire in the 1950's and a GNER Sandringham Class called Gilwell Park.Information on these three locomotives is given below.

Baden-Powell himself has a connection with the railways as his godfather was Robert Stephenson, who like his father George Stphenson was a locomotive designeras well as a civi engineer. It was reported that at the naming cermoney for The Boy Scout Henrey Fowler refered to BP has being the grandson of Robert rather than his godson. Baden-Powell takes his first two names from that of his godfather

LMS LOCOMOTIVE CALLED
"THE BOY SCOUT"

The London, Midland and Scottish Railway named one of their 71 6100 Royal Scott Class Locomotives "The Boy Scout" . It carried the number 6169 and was originally built in Derby in May 1930. The engine was officially named by Baden Powell on the 9th December 1930 at Euston Station, when the Scout's "Fleur-de-Lys" Badge was also fixed to the splasher. The engines were designed & built by Henry Fowler and later rebuilt in May 1945 by William Stainer and given the number 46169 and finally withdrawn from service in June 1963 and disposed of at the Crewe Works

The Boy Scout was one of only 3 of the 71 of the class built that didn't have it's named changed when the LMS decided to name the locos after Army Regiments, the others were 6168 "The Girl Guide" and 6159 "The Royal Air Force".

The chief mechanical engineer of the LMS and designer of the Royal Scott Class Locomotive, Sir Henry Fowler was also a former District Commissioner

6169 - The Boy Scout

Boy ScoutBoy Scout


Basset Lowke - The Boy Scout

LOCOMOTIVE CALLED
"LORD ROWALLAN "

A further locomotive of the Britannia Class (BR Standard Class 7) No. 70045, designed by Robert A. Riddles CBE, was brought into service in June 1954 named after the then Cheif Scout Lord Rowallan this locomotive was then retired in December 1967. This locomotive has been imortalised by Hornby and as become one of their representations the class in their Hornby 00 range of model locomotives

Britannia Class Locomotive
Photo of Oliver Cromwell, another Locomotive of the Class to depict what they look like

Hornby - Lord Rowallen
Hornby representation of Lord Rowallan

LOCOMOTIVE CALLED
"GILWELL PARK "

"Gilwell Park" B17/6

While doing research on the Internet for the page on Gilwell Park I came across information about a Locomotive called "Gilwell Park", this locomotive was a B17 or "Sandringham" 4-6-0 Class locomotive built by the GNER Railway at their Darlington Railway Works in September 1935 and it was given the number 2846. It designed by Nigel Gresley and was one of 73 in it's class, the first 48 of which "Gilwell Park" was part of were named after English Counrty Houses with the remaining 25 were named after Football Clubs.

During 1943 was rebuilt and became a B17/6 class and given the number 1646 in 1946, under BR Grouping was renumbered to 61646. The Locomotive was finally withdrawn from service and scrapped at the Doncaster works in January 1959.

Why this locomotive ended up being called "Gillwell Park" I am unsure, but I will do so more research into the subject and will update this page when I find out some more information

Gilwell Park Locomotive outside Ipswitch
Steam locomotive 'Gilwell Park' pulls away from Ipswich Station in the 1950s

More information on The Gresley B17 "Sandringham" Class 4-6-0s

THE PRESENT DAY

Back in the begining of 2007 the UK Scout Association posted a notice saying they had ben approached by one of the UK Train Operators who were interested in naming a Train with a Scouting related name and was after suggestions from the members of the movement, unfortunately despite being involved in the movement here in the UK I don't know if the request and idea came to anything

If anyone has or knows where I can get copies of photos of both The Boy Scout & Lord Rowallan could you please get in touch with me as I would like to add them to this page in place of the photos that depict the class